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Bob Davis, Retired -
Subject: Sad, impotent accusations are not proof of Frank's innocence.
The sad, outraged screeches of the word 'bigot' do not prove that this was a forgery. The blood rituals were observed by Frank and this case will stick in the craw of Khazars forever.
Macro Man -
Subject: Justice for little Mary Anne Phagan in this Book
God Bless You 13 yr old little Mary Phagan. I hope you can finally rest in peace with the truth being known to everybody in the years exceeding 2013. Phagan deserves the right to sleep without all the misinformation about Frank being innocent. Please stop spreading blood-libel accusations that Frank was framed and lynched because of Antisemitism. Any 21st century jury would have convicted Frank based on the testimony and exhibits. Governor Slaton disqualified himself because his lawfirm represented Leo Frank.
Subject: Required Reading on Leo Frank and Mary Phagan
The beginning section of this book was a bit slow and difficult to get through. I almost put the book down for good, but glad I didn't because once into the meat and substance of the book, it was smooth sailing and well worth reading from cover to cover! There seems to be a lot of people writing hate reviews about the book on Amazon.com, but thankfully the owner of this out of print book made it available free online.
What is very interesting and seldom talked about is that Leo Frank made a statement to the court that essentially amounted to a murder confession. Leo Frank essentially admitted to murdering Mary Phagan at his trial when he mounted the witness stand and told the Jury he might have "unconsciously" gone to the bathroom in he metal room during the time Monteen Stover waited in his empty office from 12:05 to 12:10, April 26, 1913. He formerly told the police Mary Phagan was with him in his office during this exact time. The State of Georgia's prosecution built its case around the theory Leo Frank murdered Mary Phagan in the metal room between 12:05 p.m. and 12:10 p.m.
It was a shocking metal room admission coming from Leo Frank who denied knowing his employee Mary Phagan, but had been her boss for 1 year (spring of 1912 to 1913) and passed by her work station each day on his way to the bathroom in the metal room.
For the best interpretations of the August 18, 1913, Leo Frank murder trial confession, you can read the closing arguments of State prosecution lawyers Frank Arthur Hooper and Hugh M Dorsey in American State Trials Volume X 1918 by John D. Lawson LLD.
However, Tom Watson's post trial analysis of the Leo Frank murder trial confession is the most enjoyable to read in his August and September Watson's Magazine (1915). It drives Leo Frank partisans to a foaming at the mouth frenzy, and you can't help but enjoy their squirming, cheesy excuses and screeching with utter delight.
The journey Mary Phagan Kean went through to discover the facts and circumstances surrounding the case was very interesting and captivating to say the least. Having read the other books on this particular murder case, this book, I agree is probably the most even handed on the subject.
I highly recommend this book!
Be sure to read it and the other books listed above as well.
Oh My God! Were their really four Leo Frank admissions that amounted to murder confessions?
Within the 318 page official legal records of the Leo M. Frank 1913 trial brief of evidence is testimony and affidavits revealing Leo Frank confessed to murdering Mary Phagan three times, though he would deny all three.
In the Atlanta Constitution March 9, 1914, Leo Frank would make a fourth admission that amounted to a murder confession. This was two days after Judge Benjamin Hill resentenced Leo Frank to hang by the neck until dead, scheduled on his 30th birthday, April 17, 1914.
Leo Frank Admission Number Three that Amounted to a Murder Trial Confession: August 18, 1913, Fulton County Superior Courthouse During the Leo Frank Trial
The third Leo Frank murder confession occurred on August 18, 1913, when Leo Frank mounted the witness stand at his trial (July 28 to August 26) to make a 4 hour unsworn statement. He told the packed courtroom, Judge and Jury - in response to Monteen Stover testifying that his office had been empty on April 26, 1913, from 12:05pm to 12:10pm - Leo Frank stated he might have "unconsciously" gone to the bathroom in the metal room. It was the spine chilling crescendo of the trial, because Leo Frank had stated to the Atlanta police on Monday, April 28, 1913, Mary Phagan had arrived in his office between 12:05pm and 12:10pm, Maybe 12:07pm on Confederate Memorial Day, Saturday, April 26, 1913 (State's Exhibit B).
It was a slam dunk for the State's prosecution, because Solicitor General Hugh M. Dorsey and his legal team had spent 29 days during the trial trying to prove to the Jury that Leo Frank murdered Mary Phagan in the second floor metal room between 12:05pm and 12:10om, on April 26, 1913.
Leo Frank's Alleged Murder Confession Number One: April 26, 1913, Noon Hour
Leo Frank's alleged murder confession number one was made to Jim Conley, when Leo Frank told him he had tried to have sex with Mary Phagan and she refused him, and as a result of rejecting him, he assaulted her.
Mary Phagan's bloody hair was discovered on Monday, April 28, 1913, at 6:35 A.M. tangled on the handle of a bench lathe in the second floor metal room by Robert P. Barret, along with a 5 inch wide blood stain on the floor in front of the girls dressing room. (Leo Frank Brief of Evidence, 1913)
Leo Frank Murder Confession Number Two: April 26, 1913 at 68 East Georgia Avenue, the Selig Residece
Leo Frank confessed murdering Mary Phagan to his wife Lucille Selig Frank on the evening of April 26, 1913 at 10:30 P.M. Leo Frank said he didn't know why he would murder and asked his wife for his pistol so he could shoot himself. Lucille told her family and cook Minola McKnight about what happened. (State's Exhibit J, June 3rd, 1913)
On April 23, 1957, when Lucille Selig Frank died of Heart Failure (broken heart), her last will and testament notarized and registered with the local Government of Atlanta in 1954, requested that she be cremated (Last Will and Testament of Lucille S. Frank, 1954). Sadly, the grave plot to the immediate left of Leo M. Frank in the Mount Carmel Cemetery, was reserved for Lucille Selig Frank, and to this day it remains empty. Not even Lucille's ashes are disbursed their, instead they were buried in the Oakland cemetery in Atlanta between her parent's head stones.
Those are the three Leo Frank murder confessions within the official record, but there is one more.
Leo Frank Murder Confession Number Four Went Public: March 9, 1914, Atlanta Constitution
Leo Frank gave a jailhouse interview to an Atlanta Constitution journalist and it was published on March 9, 1914. Leo Frank's statements published in the Atlanta Constitution confirmed and supported his August 18, 1913, trial statement admission, that amounted to a murder trial confession.
CASE CLOSED! or is it?
Could there perhaps have been connivance?
Subject: "Confessions"? Oh, Please!
I'm not rating this book because I haven't read it yet. But I did want to comment on Frank's so-called murder confessions.
Let's say that I state under oath that Joe Blow told me he killed his wife.
In the view of most of the book's reviewers, this would constitute a "confession." If I repeat the same story four times, then that would amount to four "confessions," according to these same reviewers.
These are not confessions, but hearsay. They may be true and they may not be true.
Leo Frank got a raw deal. He may indeed have been guilty, but he never confessed to the murder.
Subject: A slanted bunch of hooey
Subject: Give Mary Phagan Some Respect!
Does Mary Phagan Kean believe that Mary Phagan was an idiot? Would Mary Phagan have walked a fair distance with a man she was terrified of to a room that she would have known could be locked? Why didn't she wait for him in his office or by the staircase while he supposedly checked for the metal? Why would Mary have waited for him at all? Why would she have gone to see him alone if she had just been with George Epps? Why didn't he go along with her or her mother or a friend? As a girl, I find this kind of insulting. If I was scared of a guy who'd been making advances towards me I would not meet him alone or go anywhere with him alone. I know this from experience from a time when I was only about 8 years old!
Mary Phagan seemed like a very intelligent little girl. Those who believe in Leo Frank's innocence give her far more credit than those who believe in his guilt, including her own grand niece!
I'm tired of reading all these articles about Leo's "confession" and guilt. They completely ignore common sense and the evidence and seek to glorify bigots! Get over it already!
The main testimony against Frank was from the person who really murdered Mary, Jim Conley. I don't buy that Monteen Stover was the star witness. In my opinon she screwed herself by saying she looked at the clock and got their at 12:05. By claiming this she couldn't change her time line. By the Trolley witnesses testimony it was impossible that Phagan could have arrived at the factory before this. She arrived after when Stover had already left.
Yet once again it was only Conley's word that stated that Stover got their afterwards. Conley who supposedly still didn't know Mary Phagan's name months after the crime and plenty of oppotunity to have learned it. Conley who claims that Frank didn't give the signal to lock the doors until after Stover had left. It wouldn't fit with the testimony if he had locked them before would it now? It would pit Stover's claim against Conley damaging Dorsey's case. How would Stover have gotten in then to give her damaging account about Frank's supposed absense? And for that matter why wouldn't Frank have run into Stover on his way to give the signal if he had just attacked Mary? He wouldn't have heard Stover entering since she was wearing those infamous tennis shoes which are silent. Why wouldn't Frank have given the signal the moment Mary stepped into his office? It makes no sense! When a statement raises more questions then it answers them you are in trouble.
And why did Conely claim he fell asleep after Stover had left? That's very weird! The man's story was more convoluted and changing than a daytime soap opera.
The trial and subsequent lynching of Leo Frank was a travesty. It made a mockery of law and humanity. Trying to prove Frank was guilty with illogical reasoning, prejudice and mistakes won't make it any more "just" nor will it change the fact that the guilty man got away. But not forever. You can't escape justice, God's justice, forever. I'm sure that is something that everyone involved in the case who lied found out soon enough.
Subject: Mary Phagan's sister-in-law believed Leo Frank was innocent!
As one who read Mary Phagan Kean's awful tome which purported to prove Leo Frank murdered her distant relative in 1913, what she conveniently omits from it is that her grandmother--Mary Richards Phagan of Atlanta, GA--the murder victim's sister-in-law, was interviewed by the Nashville Tennessean on December 16, 1983 (picked up by the Associated Press and widely published the next day) and also by the Marietta Daily Journal, published December 23, 1983, said she strongly believed since 1913 that Leo Frank WAS INNOCENT based upon her reading of Jim Conley's trial testimony in the Atlanta newspapers during Frank's trial.
Mary Richards Phagan also told the Tennessean and the AP that she would "thank the Lord" if Frank were pardoned. When the pardon was denied to Leo Frank, she roundly denounced the Georgia parole board in another Associated Press interview, saying: "I am surprised. What's the matter with those people? There must still be a lot of people around who are so cruel."
The members of the Georgia Board of Pardons and Paroles were unaware of this, because neither the Atlanta Constitution nor the Atlanta Journal ever picked up this story; sadly, Steve Oney never mentioned it in his magnificent history of the Leo Frank case.
This is NO HOAX, I assure you; just go online to www.mdjonline.com and you can access the article MARY PHAGAN: FRANK WAS INNOCENT, December 23, 1983, p. 6-A for a small fee.
Subject: Leo Frank was innocent
But as some reviewers here say, bigots will believe what they will believe. Such as the three confessions -- 1. Yeah, Conley is a reliable source for sure. Being the guy who really did it. 2. Frank never confessed to his wife. The police coerced their African American cook (by holding her incognito for 28 hours) to say she heard his wife tell her mother that he'd confessed to her -- but the cook recanted that as soon as she got away from the police and never was called at the trial. 3. He never confessed jacks*** in court. Frank-haters believe the murder took place in the machine area by the washroom just down the hall from Frank's office like the prosecution claimed, although it came out later they botched that too and it actually took place on the floor below. But when Frank said he may have gone to the washroom in that area when Stover claimed to come to his office and he wasn't there ( Quinn confirmed Frank was there the entire time the murder could have taken place so she probably lied to be a local heroine or the cops suggested she do so)-- aha, the smoking gun. Except of course it wasn't. Just more hate BS.
To believe Frank was guilty is to ignore every real fact that ultimately emerged - the recantations, the wooden panels with bloody fingerprints from the door leading to the alley that somehow got "lost", like the ''experts''who maintained hair found in the metal area was Phagan's without even analyzing it, that drops of blood were hers without even analyzing it, the fact that Conley admitted he defecated into the elevator shaft but it wasn't mashed until a day later when the police took the elevator down to the basement although he said that's what he used to get the body to the basement the day of the murder and on and on and on. Including the judge who wrote Slaton and asked him to do what the judge should have done. There was not a single shred of evidence that Frank committed the murder, but plenty that Conley did. Watson was a despicable opportunist who cared about Watson and nothing else.
Or perhaps I'm just a traitor to my gentile heritage.
Leo Frank may not be the saint he's made out to be in the movies and the doc's or even a few of the books, and I am no fan of industrialists then or now who exploit the poor to make a fortune, but he did not kill Mary Phagan. By now, anybody with even a shred of open mindedness should know that and take this book for what its worth -- a distant relative looking for her 15 minutes and some coin.
Subject: A relatives few of the murder case
This book written by a relative of the poor murder victim Mary Phagan gives details of the oral history of the murder case given by her family and people who knew Mary Phagan and the rapist Leo Frank in person.
Very interesting are the chapters 11 and 12 which describe why the Phagan family broke their silence and how jewish organisations tried to re-write the history of the murder case long time after Leo Frank had died.
Super YiaYia -
Subject: A Miscarriage of Justice? I should Say so!
Some of the comments below, said, yes, Leo Frank killed Mary Phagan. His trial was a mockery. Mr. Frank was guilty before the trial started.
It seemed the investigation stopped with Conley???
Alonzo Mann Confession
Alonzo Mann worked in the factory as an office boy.
Almost 70 years later Mann went to the police in 1982 and stated that he (Mann), saw Conley alone in the factory carrying the girls body.
But! Conley's testimony was that Leo Frank had paid him to move the girl's body.
Alonzo Mann then swore in an affidavit that Jim Conley said he would kill him if he told anyone. When Mann told his parents, they told Mann to promise to never tell anyone ever.
When Mr. Mann was ready to tell his secret, a lie detector test was done at the same time. Mann passed the test. His reason for coming to the police, now?? Mr. Mann wanted to die guilt free.
The evidence box was gone, and it was important because they wanted to run some tests. There were bites on the girl's body, and the idea was to compare the teeth marks to Conley's dental records.
The above was not enough to pardon Leo Frank, yet.
I truly believe that Leo Frank was innocent. I have done some research and it just does not fit.
Note: there were no charges laid regarding the lynching mob. If my memory serves, one of them became governor of the state.
Subject: Truth has no meaning to bigots
Sheesh - there was no "confession", that's a fabrication of Tom Watson in his anti-semitic "Jew Pervert" article. (Who would have guessed that with a title like that he --- and his champions - are anti-semitic?)
Subject: I guess I'm PC then, because I disagree
The previous review has nothing to offer but bigotry, like his hero, Tom Watson. He calls anyone who disagrees with him "PC", as if that term means anything these days. Worse than that, much worse than that, he continues to make generalities that are plainly anti-semitic. For example, it's not just the Jewish community that's virtually unanimous in its belief that Leo Frank was an innocent victim of prejudice - it's the majority of historians who have looked at this horrible incident. You know what you're dealing with when someone consistently tries to attribute a common belief and conspiritorial accusations on a group of people, as if they are all conspired to a devious deed: the notorious "they". These bigots have learned nothing in 100 years.
Subject: Who better to tell the story than a family member?
A touching and moving portrayal written by the great-niece who bears the same name as the original victim. Her quest for the truth about what happened back in the early 1900's runs up against the dark, self-serving forces of political correctness that dominate our media and political classes today. Five stars for a serious amount of modern-day Sherlock Holmes-style sleuthing.
Some victims are just more "PC" than others, it appears.
Subject: Strange how bigotry never dies
Tom Watson was a bigot - just Google his writings on Catholics, the KKK, Jews, blacks, you name it. Yet the guys (guy - singular, probably) who post these "reviews" want you to ignore how bigoted he was, how he inflamed the public at the time with blatently anti-semitic writings in his publication the Jeffersonian, ow he bullied the jurors (threatened them if they didn't vote to convict), hid evidence, made up other evidence, and incited Frank's lynching. How can you take this man's word for anything?
Subject: Great summary of murder from grandniece herself
The grandniece of Mary Phagan by the same name wrote about her views of the case over a score ago and detailed both the case and the personal side of the story. She recalls being made fun of as a child for having the same name and being asked the ubiquitous question, "Are you by any chance related to Mary Phagan?" She later details both the prosecution and defense's arguments in Chs. 4 and 5, respectively, and goes on to talk about the lynching and implications of the case. It is a great read for learning about The American Dreyfus Case, the impetus for the rebirth of the Ku Klux Klan, the formation of the Anti-Defamation League, and the first time a white man in Georgia was convicted of murder on the testimony of a black man.
Subject: What IS this fixation with this Tom Watson bigot?
Yeah, Watson is very objective, with titles like "Rich Jews Indict a State" and "The Jew Pervert Frank". Why is this guy saturating this site with biased material about something that occurred 100 years ago? Why does he portray Tom Watson as a valid and objective analyst, when it was this KKK-supporting bigot that incited the lynching of Frank? And why do his posting include various levels of anti-semitic statements themselves (you know, portraying all them there Rich Jews as a singular, evil entity who have all banded together for the sole purpose of reforming Leo Franks' name). It's not anti-semitic to claim Frank was guilty. It is anti-semitic to constantly make generalizations about Jews as a singular entity who only distort truth and to whitewash the purely bigoted writings of an individual, Tom Watson
Subject: Please check out the biased source
Tom Watson was not an objective analyst. He was a bigot, a KKK supporter, anti-Catholic, and anti-semitic. Read some of his other writings on these subjects, but take some anti-nausea medicine first. He called for and celebrated the lynching of Leo Frank. The NY Times at the time said he was responsible for the lynching. I have no idea why the guy who posted this is all over this site on a crusade to champion Tom Watson, but the guy was a simply a bigot.
Subject: The murder of Mary Phagan
I think the long work is well written regarding Mary Phagan and her murder. Now, we just need more people rising up and going after the rapists.
Subject: a generic good read
some portions read sentimental, but a good generic read all-in-all. in brief the work is a satisfactory synopsis of the leo m. frank case. one can not fathom why mrs. kean who believes unequivocally in leo m. frank's guilt felt compelled to feign doubt and write a "mostly" neutral account. there were a few errors in the book, but for the most part the facts were solid. the thought process in evaluating the evidence was logical and reasonable. anyone who studies the case carefully knows there is no question or doubt leo m. frank was guilty of the crime. why the jewish community feels compelled to claim he was an innocent man who did not commit the crime, a victim of antisemitism is incomprehensible and puts in dispute real acts of antisemitism. i am convinced the grand and petite jury made the correct decision deciding leo m. frank guilty and the supreme courts upholding the conviction was right and just.
Subject: Nineteenth Century?!
Why are people writing that this occurred in the nineteenth century? The whole thing transpired between 1913 and 1915--the twentieth century. People make me feel like I'm "loosing" my mind!
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